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The result was delete. Jayjg (talk) 00:34, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Although I believe that this article was created in good faith, I have discovered no evidence to support any of the assertions of existence claimed by the article
There are several issues with this article. Firstly, it appears that the initial author has been under the impression that Pil'gyn refers to a specific lagoon, whereas it is a more general Chukchi word, used in numerous places throughout the area meaning the entrance to a lagoon. See Nutepelmen for an example of the use of Pyl'gin, with the usage of the word supported here (at roughly 67o 30'N, 175E). This reference includes a further example at roughly 67N, 173E.
Secondly, This reference shows that the specific lagoon in question is called Laguna Kanugto (at roughly 69N, 179E). This claim is supported by a Russian source, which confirms that the romanisation of the Russian name is at least in the same ballpark and the lagoon is definitely not called Pyl'gin.
Thirdly there is no settlement called Pil'gyn in the area. The only two settlements are the former mining settlement of Polyarny and Leningradsky. The maps both show another settlement called Notakatryn. This is most probably an old Chukchi settlement that has been liquidated or a polar station. Either way, it is not a settlement called Pil'gyn. The "geographic data" link probably refers to a weather station rather than a genuine settlement and the "adventures in Pil'gyn area" only mentions the word once and does not provide any indication that Pil'gyn is a settlement rather than a road or area within Leningradsky or Polyarny (The wetlands link does not discuss Pil'gyn at all).
Finally, there is also no mention of a settlement or municipal area called Pil'gyn here in the official law conglomerating Shmidtovsky and Iultinsky Municipal Districts.
In summary, the article needs deletion as: there is no lagoon called Pil'gyn; There is no settlement called Pil'gyn, Pil'gyn is a generic Chukchi word not confined to one place and there is no area officially called Pil'gyn in Chukotka.
I should probably also note that I am involved in the editing of Chukotka related articles, though I do not claim to be an authoritative source in any way, but I suppose it could be construed that I have an conflicting interest in this so I feel I should declare it. Fenix down (talk) 21:34, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I concur with this assessment. I myself have been trying to find sources to support this article for quite some time, but was unable to find anything. Delete.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 13, 2010; 23:59 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:43, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Fenix down. David V Houston (talk) 14:43, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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