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Feb 19, 10:01 AM
#1
I mean, someone will eventually make one so why not now... Go crazy with your hot takes. |
Feb 19, 10:11 AM
#2
Aku no Hana and Ping Pong the Animation styles look awesome. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
Feb 19, 10:32 AM
#3
Full Metal Alchemist is far, far superior to Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, which was a much less interesting and far dumber show (and was for babies). This is actually a stone cold take, but this is the internet and someone, probably someone who has the brain of a baby, might find it controversial (and they will be wrong, and a baby). |
Feb 19, 10:37 AM
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Reply to Zarutaku
Aku no Hana and Ping Pong the Animation styles look awesome.
@Zarutaku I second you with this take. |
Feb 19, 10:58 AM
#5
Here is a big one. Digimon is better than Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. |
Feb 19, 11:15 AM
#6
-Hades is one of the worst written and most overrated characters in Record of Ragnarok. -While I still agree Sakura was wasted potential and written awfully, she's not the worst written woman nor Naruto character. -Skypiea is one of the best arcs in One Piece. The only flaws are the lack of relevance to the plot (you could remove the Skypiea Arc and wouldn't change the story significantly) and how unnecessarily dragged it is. But the latter is not only an age old problem with One Piece but the shonen genre as a whole. -Negating a power bc you are simply too strong or powerful to actually need it is just lazy. -Despite its flaws, Bleach is better than Naruto. -The ending for Attack on Titan was perfection, I can't envision it any other way. -If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity. -The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. |
FukokuFeb 19, 11:19 AM
If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
Feb 19, 11:16 AM
#7
@Itto_x_Ei Rent-A-Girlfriend is just getting milked at this point |
If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
Feb 19, 11:24 AM
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Feb 19, 11:29 AM
#9
Reply to Fukoku
-Hades is one of the worst written and most overrated characters in Record of Ragnarok.
-While I still agree Sakura was wasted potential and written awfully, she's not the worst written woman nor Naruto character.
-Skypiea is one of the best arcs in One Piece. The only flaws are the lack of relevance to the plot (you could remove the Skypiea Arc and wouldn't change the story significantly) and how unnecessarily dragged it is. But the latter is not only an age old problem with One Piece but the shonen genre as a whole.
-Negating a power bc you are simply too strong or powerful to actually need it is just lazy.
-Despite its flaws, Bleach is better than Naruto.
-The ending for Attack on Titan was perfection, I can't envision it any other way.
-If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity.
-The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
-While I still agree Sakura was wasted potential and written awfully, she's not the worst written woman nor Naruto character.
-Skypiea is one of the best arcs in One Piece. The only flaws are the lack of relevance to the plot (you could remove the Skypiea Arc and wouldn't change the story significantly) and how unnecessarily dragged it is. But the latter is not only an age old problem with One Piece but the shonen genre as a whole.
-Negating a power bc you are simply too strong or powerful to actually need it is just lazy.
-Despite its flaws, Bleach is better than Naruto.
-The ending for Attack on Titan was perfection, I can't envision it any other way.
-If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity.
-The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Fukoku said: Based opinion, do fans even care about the character writing lol? -If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity. Fukoku said: Why tho? I thought the Spin and Rock Human was cool.-The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. |
Feb 19, 11:33 AM
#10
Reply to kizumi91
Fukoku said:
-If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity.
Based opinion, do fans even care about the character writing lol? -If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity.
Fukoku said:
-The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Why tho? I thought the Spin and Rock Human was cool.-The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
@kizumi91 It's just nostalgia lol, watching all the adventures of Jotaro, Josuke, Joseph, etc. The new universe is still cool though. Also, while I'm not sure how many fans are like this but some Gabi haters are okay with villains like Frieza and Griffith.... |
If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
Feb 19, 11:53 AM
#11
Feb 19, 11:53 AM
#12
2024 had some romance anime with probably the most bland main characters I've seen in years, with Ao no Hako, Gimai Seikatsu and Yubisaki to Renren as the main culprits. |
Feb 19, 11:55 AM
#13
@WaterMage Hina is singlehandedly saving this show from being completely unwatchable. You could switch Chinatsu with a wooden board and it wouldn't make much difference personality-wise. |
Feb 19, 12:11 PM
#14
Reply to Nefregar
@WaterMage Hina is singlehandedly saving this show from being completely unwatchable. You could switch Chinatsu with a wooden board and it wouldn't make much difference personality-wise.
@Nefregar if saving means streching out with meaningless drama then yes. Chinatsu is a far better character and supports the mc in a way Hina can only dream off. And she isn't selfish. Nefregar said: most bland main characters I've seen in years, with Gimai Seikatsu Also Yuuta Asamura is not bland any sort of way. Rather he is one of the better romcom MMC this year. If he doesn't act like smartass cringelord and act as sensible helpful real person makes him bland then idk. |
Feb 19, 12:26 PM
#15
Ohoho I have some good ones MHA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainsaw Man and JJK AOT was never good Evangelion the tv anime and End are complete and utter trash, the rebuilds (at least rebuilds 2 and 4) are far superior Boruto is good Devil's a Part Timer Season 2 was good, both parts Pom Poko is not only the worst Ghibli film, but one of the worst anime films ever created Baka and Test was barely funny Toradora is overrated |
Feb 19, 12:27 PM
#16
Reply to Fukoku
-Hades is one of the worst written and most overrated characters in Record of Ragnarok.
-While I still agree Sakura was wasted potential and written awfully, she's not the worst written woman nor Naruto character.
-Skypiea is one of the best arcs in One Piece. The only flaws are the lack of relevance to the plot (you could remove the Skypiea Arc and wouldn't change the story significantly) and how unnecessarily dragged it is. But the latter is not only an age old problem with One Piece but the shonen genre as a whole.
-Negating a power bc you are simply too strong or powerful to actually need it is just lazy.
-Despite its flaws, Bleach is better than Naruto.
-The ending for Attack on Titan was perfection, I can't envision it any other way.
-If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity.
-The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
-While I still agree Sakura was wasted potential and written awfully, she's not the worst written woman nor Naruto character.
-Skypiea is one of the best arcs in One Piece. The only flaws are the lack of relevance to the plot (you could remove the Skypiea Arc and wouldn't change the story significantly) and how unnecessarily dragged it is. But the latter is not only an age old problem with One Piece but the shonen genre as a whole.
-Negating a power bc you are simply too strong or powerful to actually need it is just lazy.
-Despite its flaws, Bleach is better than Naruto.
-The ending for Attack on Titan was perfection, I can't envision it any other way.
-If you hate on Gabi from Attack on Titan, you don't understand her. And if you hate her for killing Sasha, then you should also hate on Eren for wiping out 80% of humanity.
-The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
@Fukoku Skypiea does not deserve the hate, nor does Fishman Island, both are incredibly important arcs to the world of One Piece. Just curious who would you say is the worst written female character in Naruto if not Sakura? Tenten, Hinata, Kaguya? |
Feb 19, 12:37 PM
#17
Reply to rbp_pbr2
Full Metal Alchemist is far, far superior to Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, which was a much less interesting and far dumber show (and was for babies).
This is actually a stone cold take, but this is the internet and someone, probably someone who has the brain of a baby, might find it controversial (and they will be wrong, and a baby).
This is actually a stone cold take, but this is the internet and someone, probably someone who has the brain of a baby, might find it controversial (and they will be wrong, and a baby).
@rbp_pbr2 100, no 1000% agree. FMA is a true Classic. To me Brotherhood felt like a slightly inferior rehash. Yes, I know it is more true to the Manga. But after reading the Manga, the first series is better than that. |
Feb 19, 12:42 PM
#18
Reply to Nefregar
@WaterMage Hina is singlehandedly saving this show from being completely unwatchable. You could switch Chinatsu with a wooden board and it wouldn't make much difference personality-wise.
@Nefregar this is not a hot take at all, its actually quite based. |
Feb 19, 12:45 PM
#19
WaterMage said: if saving means streching out with meaningless drama then yes. Chinatsu is a far better character and supports the mc in a way Hina can only dream off. And she isn't selfish. I'll admit that Hina x Taiki clearly was never going to go anywhere and is only there to check the box of love rival drama But on the other hand Hina > Chinatsu You can argue if Chinatsu x Taiki is a better SHIP than Hina x Taiki but I will not hear blasphemy such as "Chinatsu is better than Hina" Fukoku said: -The old universe is better than the new universe, for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. I agree SBR is my second favorite part of JoJo but JoJolion was kinda mid Pretty much every single female character in JoJolion except Yasuho got one arc and then either got relegated to cameos or fucked off until the final battle (or, in one case, never to return again). I haven't really read that much of JoJolands so maybe that's better but so far one part does not a better universe make (especially when it's not even the best JoJo part). Zarutaku said: Aku no Hana and Ping Pong the Animation styles look awesome. I'd go so far as to say Aku no Hana was better off being rotoscoped, I feel like we wouldn't have gotten a second season of Aku no Hana anyway, better to rule in hell than serve in heaven (although I think the rotoscoping magnified the uncanny, unnerving feeling of Aku no Hana better than trad animation ever would have). My part b hot take regarding Aku no Hana is the first half is better than the second. Tokiwa was so boring compared to Nakamura and Saeki and, like, I'm sure that's the point but that didn't make it fun to read. --- Idk how hot this is but my hot take is that I didn't like how they adapted Chainsaw Man into an anime. I kinda felt that way since it aired but watching Devilman Crybaby in particular made me realize what CSM could've been because that's basically what I wanted in a CSM anime (albeit toned down for TV). |
Feb 19, 12:56 PM
#20
Reply to removed-user
Here is a big one. Digimon is better than Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh.
@Finkelstein is there a question? I love Pokémon but digimon has: -2 masterful seasons, with many more between great to fine -one of the best looking styles for movies -insane OST (which for some reason, the biggest dreamer's music works great with a cruel angels thesis's lyrics) -the best redemption arc ever made with Bealzamon -the better card game I haven't said everything and Digimon already blows Pokémon out of the water |
Feb 19, 1:13 PM
#21
Reply to Guilmon1
@Finkelstein is there a question? I love Pokémon but digimon has:
-2 masterful seasons, with many more between great to fine
-one of the best looking styles for movies
-insane OST (which for some reason, the biggest dreamer's music works great with a cruel angels thesis's lyrics)
-the best redemption arc ever made with Bealzamon
-the better card game
I haven't said everything and Digimon already blows Pokémon out of the water
-2 masterful seasons, with many more between great to fine
-one of the best looking styles for movies
-insane OST (which for some reason, the biggest dreamer's music works great with a cruel angels thesis's lyrics)
-the best redemption arc ever made with Bealzamon
-the better card game
I haven't said everything and Digimon already blows Pokémon out of the water
@Guilmon1 Yup, you said it better than me. Another positive I could add, it tells a full story in only 50 episodes instead of prolonging it to 1000+, waisting your time for decades. |
Feb 19, 1:15 PM
#22
-digimon is a masterpiece -manga is better than anime -battle angel Alita's second half was way too ruched outside of Ido and the final canon fight -Deku is a good protagonist -Ash being a loser added a lot to the story and he's mostly a good character -outside of the last 1.5 volumes devilman was pretty boring, thankfully the last arc is worth it so much -Rei is the best evangelion character -rebuild 2.0 is the worst rebuild movie -magma diver is a good episode -SuleMio isn't even the most interesting thing about Suletta's character -Char's change between zeta and cca makes sense, people overrate how strange cca feels -the problem with Kira in gundam seed is that he's not overpowered enough, he should have had more power and let the final arc truly be about the relationship between power and peace -dead dead demon's dededede destruction is better than solanin -86 doesn't have a unique story, the reason it's good is that the director is great -GiTS wasn't too interesting -L isn't interesting |
Feb 19, 1:21 PM
#23
Supersonic_Pain said: "Chinatsu is better than Hina" She is There's no blasphemy about it |
Feb 19, 1:22 PM
#24
Reply to removed-user
@Guilmon1 Yup, you said it better than me. Another positive I could add, it tells a full story in only 50 episodes instead of prolonging it to 1000+, waisting your time for decades.
@Finkelstein I'll actually play the devil's advocate and say that while it made it so there won't be consistent quality story and the writers absolutely didn't put the extensive history and character count to good use, the fact it took Ash 25 seasons to win had a catharsis that could never be reached without, even if it wasn't the purpose Pikachu vs. Charizard felt special even with Journeys being a very rage inducing and bad saga. Pokémon has many flaws but it is special and the fact he lost and lost but still stood is my favourite "hard work will succeed" and underdog story even if a lot of it (looking at S&M with like 10 really good episodes out of 150) is bad |
Feb 19, 1:27 PM
#25
Feb 19, 1:29 PM
#26
Reply to Guilmon1
@Finkelstein I'll actually play the devil's advocate and say that while it made it so there won't be consistent quality story and the writers absolutely didn't put the extensive history and character count to good use, the fact it took Ash 25 seasons to win had a catharsis that could never be reached without, even if it wasn't the purpose Pikachu vs. Charizard felt special even with Journeys being a very rage inducing and bad saga. Pokémon has many flaws but it is special and the fact he lost and lost but still stood is my favourite "hard work will succeed" and underdog story even if a lot of it (looking at S&M with like 10 really good episodes out of 150) is bad
@Guilmon1 I get what you mean but the way they handled it in JN defeats the whole message. We got two series where Ash did not even feel like the same character anymore, as he was acting out of character in SM, and in JN they decided to make him a power fantasy sort of wishfulfillment blank slate protagonist who now wins every time even against opponents he would not have a realistic chance of ever defeating, was it necessary to make him defeat the Champions from the past regions and in such a haphazard way, with rookie Pokemon, really? It broke the logic of its world. They missed an opportunity of making him use all the previous Pokemon he had trained there. If say, Ash had won at XY then I would agree with your sentiment, and it was build up for him to win in XY but for whatever reason they decided to make him lose yet again. |
removed-userFeb 19, 1:42 PM
Feb 19, 1:31 PM
#27
Reply to removed-user
@Guilmon1 I get what you mean but the way they handled it in JN defeats the whole message. We got two series where Ash did not even feel like the same character anymore, as he was acting out of character in SM, and in JN they decided to make him a power fantasy sort of wishfulfillment blank slate protagonist who now wins every time even against opponents he would not have a realistic chance of ever defeating, was it necessary to make him defeat the Champions from the past regions and in such a haphazard way, with rookie Pokemon, really? It broke the logic of its world. They missed an opportunity of making him use all the previous Pokemon he had trained there. If say, Ash had won at XY then I would agree with your sentiment, and it was build up for him to win in XY but for whatever reason they decided to make him lose yet again.
@Finkelstein as a XYZ fan I can't disagree, even though I think if he lost and JN was good and allowed an Ash and Allan rematch in the tournament it would have been even better |
Feb 19, 1:34 PM
#28
RWBY is an anime. wait, i already posted this in another thread. like, just last night, while discussing something else. oops lol |
Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
Feb 19, 1:50 PM
#29
isekai LN/manga/anime dont deserve the hate they get...imho people dont hate isekai/reincarnation stories...they hate lazy/unskilled authors that dont know how to properly write a story and create good characters |
Feb 19, 2:03 PM
#30
The second part of Death Note is just as good as the first one. L’s death is a crucial moment that shapes the story and the start of Light's end.His death is essential, and without it, the narrative wouldn’t have the same impact. I cannot image a different ending for L.However, I do think the second part would have been even stronger if Mello had a more prominent role instead of the focus being placed so heavily on Near. As for Mori in Bungou Stray Dogs, he isn’t a pedophile, but he is undeniably a groomer—though not in a sexual sense. He manipulates and abuses children like Dazai, Chuuya, and Yosano, but never shows actual romantic or sexual interest in them. Elise, on the other hand, is a reference to the real-life author’s work, and the anime plays with this idea in a similar way to how it jokes about the Tanizaki siblings and their dynamic. |
Feb 19, 2:22 PM
#31
86 Part two, is vastly inferior to part one, it became generic mecha anime, with massive MC Plot armor. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya is a much better written anime the Unlimited Blade Works. Hunter x Hunter - The Phantom Troup arc, is the least important arc in the anime. Kodomo no Jikan is one of the best written romances ever. Steins;Gate was extremely predictable WaterMage said: The only thing that is stretching things out, is the two main characters who clearly like each other, refusing to confess to each other over stupid petty issues. At least Hina had the guts to tell both of them how she felt, and if Chinatsu isn't going to fight for the boy she likes, why shouldn't Hina? From a meta perspective, we know it's doomed to fail, but realistically, it makes sense to go for it. If you and another girl both like the same person, but they refuse to make a move, then of course you go for it. if saving means streching out with meaningless drama then yes. Chinatsu is a far better character and supports the mc in a way Hina can only dream off. And she isn't selfish. |
Feb 19, 2:25 PM
#32
Reply to KaiservonKorea
Ohoho I have some good ones
MHA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainsaw Man and JJK
AOT was never good
Evangelion the tv anime and End are complete and utter trash, the rebuilds (at least rebuilds 2 and 4) are far superior
Boruto is good
Devil's a Part Timer Season 2 was good, both parts
Pom Poko is not only the worst Ghibli film, but one of the worst anime films ever created
Baka and Test was barely funny
Toradora is overrated
MHA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainsaw Man and JJK
AOT was never good
Evangelion the tv anime and End are complete and utter trash, the rebuilds (at least rebuilds 2 and 4) are far superior
Boruto is good
Devil's a Part Timer Season 2 was good, both parts
Pom Poko is not only the worst Ghibli film, but one of the worst anime films ever created
Baka and Test was barely funny
Toradora is overrated
KaiservonKorea said: AOT was never good I tend to agree with this, I thought the first season wasn't terrible and then people started acting like it was anime of the decade. KaiservonKorea said: Baka and Test was barely funny Wow I haven't watched that one since middle school, didn't even know people talked about it still. KaiservonKorea said: Toradora is overrated Whether you liked it or not, it was genre defining for romance anime. |
Feb 19, 3:52 PM
#33
The winter 2025 season is pretty dull and weak. |
Feb 19, 4:48 PM
#34
There has NEVER been a good Anime' based on a card game. EVER. |
Feb 19, 5:05 PM
#35
Reply to Zarutaku
Aku no Hana and Ping Pong the Animation styles look awesome.
@Zarutaku I third you with this take. |
Feb 19, 5:16 PM
#36
KaiservonKorea said: @Fukoku Skypiea does not deserve the hate, nor does Fishman Island, both are incredibly important arcs to the world of One Piece. Just curious who would you say is the worst written female character in Naruto if not Sakura? Tenten, Hinata, Kaguya? The worst written woman in Naruto is Tenten, she got less screentime than a damn swing. Imo, Fishman Island isn’t the worst arc per se but not that good either, I really only cared about seeing what the Straw Hats are like post timeskip. Other than that this arc is forgettable. |
If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
Feb 19, 5:28 PM
#38
Anime that are artsy and try stuffs, that is very thought out or just put here to be cool, aren't pretentious. Anime that don't try to experiment much with their themes and characters and then explains everything to the viewer with obvious dialogues and visuals are pretentious. |
Feb 19, 5:55 PM
#39
Anime fandom is really a disparate bunch of animation fans with various genre interests stuffed in a tiny room together and forced to interact with each other even if our interests come in sharp conflict. As much as people complain about mainstream battle shonen, that's often the only venue for people to actually share a common interest and not talk past each other regarding shows no one else in the room has seen. |
♪Strong from the inside, you're still my lifeline! I feel you wherever you are!♪ |
Feb 19, 6:43 PM
#40
Reply to Saputrai
isekai LN/manga/anime dont deserve the hate they get...imho people dont hate isekai/reincarnation stories...they hate lazy/unskilled authors that dont know how to properly write a story and create good characters
@Saputrai The last part is the vast majority, though. |
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Feb 19, 6:45 PM
#41
Reply to piroriparopirira
Anime that are artsy and try stuffs, that is very thought out or just put here to be cool, aren't pretentious. Anime that don't try to experiment much with their themes and characters and then explains everything to the viewer with obvious dialogues and visuals are pretentious.
@piroriparopirira That's simply not what pretentious means, though. |
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Feb 19, 7:09 PM
#42
Feb 19, 7:11 PM
#43
Reply to LostSpectre
@piroriparopirira That's simply not what pretentious means, though.
@LostSpectre I mean that the second type is pretentious because it's putting extra drama with dialogues and visuals that are obvious to the viewer but being highlighted as if the viewer is stupid. For example Natsu e no Tunnel, Sayonara no Deguchi is pretentious because it keeps exagerating the drama of too straight-forward-scenes making your eye rolls while showing nothing unique. Most of the time when a show is being "intellectual" it's labelled as pretentious because it's believed to be looking down on the viewer (as I've seen) and I wanted to go against that idea, maybe pretentious isn't the right word for it. |
Feb 19, 8:26 PM
#44
Macross: Do you remember love is mid af. |
Feb 19, 8:41 PM
#45
Reply to KaiservonKorea
Ohoho I have some good ones
MHA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainsaw Man and JJK
AOT was never good
Evangelion the tv anime and End are complete and utter trash, the rebuilds (at least rebuilds 2 and 4) are far superior
Boruto is good
Devil's a Part Timer Season 2 was good, both parts
Pom Poko is not only the worst Ghibli film, but one of the worst anime films ever created
Baka and Test was barely funny
Toradora is overrated
MHA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chainsaw Man and JJK
AOT was never good
Evangelion the tv anime and End are complete and utter trash, the rebuilds (at least rebuilds 2 and 4) are far superior
Boruto is good
Devil's a Part Timer Season 2 was good, both parts
Pom Poko is not only the worst Ghibli film, but one of the worst anime films ever created
Baka and Test was barely funny
Toradora is overrated
@KaiservonKorea I agree with the toradora and baka-test take but the last part of devil's a part timer was way worse than the earlier ones |
Feb 19, 8:46 PM
#46
There is something wrong with the people who like food wars and prison school (better than food wars but still not good). |
Feb 19, 9:33 PM
#47
Feb 19, 10:05 PM
#48
Jackson1333 said: That's because 86 was never meant to have a sequel.86 Part two, is vastly inferior to part one, it became generic mecha anime, with massive MC Plot armor. Part 1 adapts the first volume, and originally that one volume was all the series had since it was a LN that was submitted to a LN writing contest. Once it won, that's when it got a publishing deal with Kadokawa for more volumes. But the series was supposed to begin and end with what part 1 of the anime is. tchitchouan said: That's not really a hot take, most people would agree with you somewhat. The winter 2025 season is pretty dull and weak Neterosan said: Is that really a hot take? I know a lot of people disliked the show, but saying it's "enjoyable" isn't that insane...I found Deer Friend Nokotan enjoyable |
Feb 19, 11:56 PM
#49
I'm sure that I could conjure up a whole heap, but just for now: 1.) The first half of Steins Gate, the mainly Mystery + Slice of Life portion, is not only not inferior to the second half but a great deal more preferable overall. The second half is fine and plays out and capitalizes on what was set up and constructed in the first place, but it is more reliant on plot contrivances. The first half could still be a very charming and thought-provoking Slice of Life even if the series ended prematurely without becoming an action-packed extravaganza, but the action and drama of the second half would be closer to any Hollywood action-drama-thriller summer blockbuster and have no weight or soul without the sense of endearment and investment fostered in the first half to begin with. Those who fail to appreciate this and present it as if only the second half is worthwhile or enjoyable just strike me as having minimal attention span. Speculative conversations and debates about physics, the mechanics of time travel, and research organizational conspiracies are at least as enthralling, usually moreso, as any street gunfight. 2.) 86 was always an incredibly shallow treatment of its subject matter. The second season/second part only induced more people to see what was already very much true in the first. The premise is a cliche one of dystopian racialist and actively racist/discriminatory society where people are segregated and oppressed based on phenotype and intrinsic characteristics. That it and other Sci-Fi reworkings of aspects of NS Germany and WWII to serve as textbook authoritarian or totalitarian villains are very cliche and prevalent is ultimately perfectly fine if you expand upon it in a compelling way. One major way to do so is characters and for me, characters in any series and how they're written are arguably the single most important part. The problem is that the characters were always quite bland archetypes and not well developed and expanded upon beyond a few basic experiences and traits. That doesn't alter or detract from the fact that it also always had stellar direction and music, particularly in those first 11 episodes (after which it's still present but seems less prominent and decisive - less Lena and more time spent with the even worse characters + jump the shark moments of unkillable human characters + royal loli mascot = weaker writing overall, meaning less time and opportunity for elements like that stately OST to really be felt and leave their mark, since they're paired with a low-tier script). I still enjoy it (the first season/part definitely, but even the second) as popcorn entertainment. The songs are just too riveting, the camera work too spot on, and Lena too pretty and infectiously principled not to. But when I hear others compare it to or place it in the same categories alongside juggernauts, like, say Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, as a heavyweight deep military science-fiction, I can't take that seriously. It's a puddle compared to the Pacific ocean. |
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